Jacob Rees-Mogg got in trouble the other day for saying something along the lines that the victims of Grenfell were silly for following the official advice and staying put. Well, there's a lot of dead air to fill on LBC and only a limited number of right wing people to fill it...
Rather a tactless/nasty thing to say and yet one does feel that his selfish brain had a point somewhere... Maybe you have to be incredibly selfish to point out the elephant in the room but "stay put in the building that's burning" doesn't sound on the face of it like sensible advice ...with the benefit of hindsight.
I followed some discussions on line about whether the LFB advice made any sense. I was advised it was standard advice to stop people running into the flames / dying of smoke inhallation. But is this the truth?
The official report helpfully contains in the executive summary the following timeline...
01.26 MPS declares a Major Incident.
01.27 Fire reaches the roof and starts to spread horizontally.
01.29 WM Michael Dowden, the LFB incident commander, makes pumps 20 (having made up from 4 to 6, to 8, to 10 and to 15 between
01.13 and 01.28).
01.30 First 999 call reporting fire penetrating a flat (Mariem Elgwahry, Flat 196, floor 22).
01.31 WM Dowden makes pumps 25. By this time 110 out of 297 occupants have escaped; the fire starts to spread to the north elevation of the tower.
01.42 The LAS declares a Significant Incident.
01.45 First NPAS (police) helicopter arrives at the scene.
01.50 WM Dowden hands over incident command to SM Andrew Walton. By this time 168 of 297 occupants had escaped.
01.58 SM Walton hands over incident command to DAC Andrew O’Loughlin.
02.00 Flames travel across the north and east elevations of the tower, and start to spread around the crown and diagonally across the face of the building, affecting flats in the south-east and north-west corners.
02.04 GM Richard Welch declares himself incident commander, not knowing that DAC O’Loughlin has already assumed command. GM Welch makes pumps 40.
02.06 GM Welch declares a Major Incident. 02.11 DAC O’Loughlin takes handover from GM Welch. 02.15 SOM Joanne Smith arrives at the control room.
02.17 Bridgehead moves from floor 2 up to floor 3.
02.20 Flames start to spread to south elevation.
02.26 The LAS declares a Major Incident
02.35 Control room decides to revoke the “stay put” advice and tell all occupants calling 999 to leave the tower.
When the 2:35 advice was put out then what was the situation with the smoke and fire in stairwells?
The executive summary continues...
The spread of fire and smoke within the tower is described in Chapter 25. Many lobbies had started to fill with smoke by around 01.20 and some were significantly smoke-logged by 01.40.
By 02.00 a significant number were heavily smoke-logged. Until around 01.50 there was less smoke in the stairs; by then 168 people had been able to escape.
After that time the stairs started to fill with smoke, particularly at lower levels. At some levels the smoke was thick and the heat considerable. By 02.20 the smoke in the stairs did pose a risk to life, but the stairs were not absolutely impassable to all even after that time.
So clearly the advice given was just wrong and people could easilly have got out if they'd have been told to leave earlier. Even Rees-Mogg like a broken clock is right sometimes and he has point ... the official advice to stay put makes no sense. Several people made the point that there were many cases of the fire brigade turning up to flat fires to find the whole flat burnt out but that the fire had not spread to the rest of the building ... and inferred from this that staying put can in many cases be safer than leaving. However, it's a basic law of physics that heat rises and therefore if you're above a fire you're never going to be as safe as being below it (even if the fire is contained).
So where does this advice come from if it doesn't match with basic physics / common sense? Whenever I've worked in a tall building and there's a fire alarm they evacuate everyone immediately. So why is it different for residential properties? The answer is stairwells are not made to support a mass evacuation... A plan right up there with not having enough lifeboats on the Titanic because it was deemed unsinkable. Indeed I use the word stairwellS ... there was only one.
Watch manager Mr O'Keeffe said: "I didn't have an opinion, other than if people
started to evacuate it would become multiple casualties in the stairs
and that we would have great difficulty in finding out where people
were. But if people start evacuating - when the entire building
is on fire or most of it is on fire and the only way down is impossible -
that will have been a huge catastrophe."
So in a sense Mr Ress-Mogg was right ...if it had been me I would have been straight out of there because the stay put advice was clearly designed to save lives - not to save my individual life. Like the officers on the Titanic the LFB were effectively trying to reduce panic and/or decide who would and wouldn't be saved and trying to find ways of putting off the inevitable...?
Of course in this case the fire had reached the top of the building by 1:30 moving round the outside due to the flamable cladding and breaching its way in through windows and kitchen extractor outlets. So why did it take till 2pm to start evacuating people...?
A possible further explanation is available in Chapter 25 which explains how the spread of smoke was not equal so that although the stairs remained passable some lobbies were clearly not:
"The speed at which smoke penetrated particular lobbies varied. The smoke that billowed from the north lift when it reached the ground floor at 01.26 is broadly indicative of the volume of smoke in the lobby on floor 10 when it stopped there during its descent. Smoke is likely to have begun to penetrate floor 10 after 01.20 when the external flame front reached that floor. By 01.22 the external flame front had reached the top of floor 11. The rapid accumulation of smoke in the lobby on floor 10 was sufficient to trap three people (Mohamednur Tuccu, Khadija Khalloufi and Ali Yawar Jafari) in that lobby. "
Not that I've had time to read all 800 pages of the phase 1 report - it's incredibly detailed on everything from the cladding to the UPVC windows even showing up pictures of who sat where in the control rooms...
...however, every page one reads simply reinforces the reality that ...well... it was built on the cheap, wasn't it? From the report of the fire to fire engulfing the building took little over an hour. Even if better use had been made of this critical time window there would still have been many deaths...?
Monday, 11 November 2019
There was a Prime Minister Johnson
There was a Prime Minister Johnson
Who sacked his own backbenchers and then
Couldn't pass legislation
Or unite the nation
So why not elect him again then?
Who sacked his own backbenchers and then
Couldn't pass legislation
Or unite the nation
So why not elect him again then?
It's started...
So it starts officially. My first election leaflet for 2019. This one from Sarah Jones defending her majority of 5642. Red scarf. Cloth cap. No one can accuse Labour these days of not looking Labour. A solitary christmas borble attempts to cheer us up into turning out at the polls yet again...
...one is tempted to say one only turns out every 5 years and it's up to the politicans to fit into my schedule... except that one knows that the right wing never have a probem getting their vote out. So I suppose I'll have to force myself. Sarah promises to stand up for Croydon, campaign for safer streets and fight against cuts and a hard Brexit...
...on the back is the usual depressing it's a two horse race message familar to all those living in marginal constituencies. Fortunately the Lib Dems hardly poll anything here so vote splitting isn't a problem but it is always somehow depressing to be told that really it's just a binary choice. Funny I'd usually have a deluge of paper nonsense by now but I guess they've all run out of money with 3 elections in 5 years... or perhaps it all goes on social media advertising these days.
Sunday, 3 November 2019
Everybody's dead, Dave!
I was at home with a cold the other day when I decided to
escape Brexit by wandering over to Netflix where I watched the first episode of Red Dwarf again – “The End” - which I haven't seen for 20 odd years...
Watching it from such a distance since its original
broadcast (1998?) one has to take one’s hat off once again at just how brave
this is as a piece of writing. Starting
with a sequence where Lister and Rimmer are arguing about doing their job the
episode introduces us to a whole array of characters…
... Captain Hollister, Kristine Kochanski, Todhunter, Petersen, Chen, Selby and George McIntyre and then promptly kills all of them simultaneously 15 minutes in. They're all dead.
... Captain Hollister, Kristine Kochanski, Todhunter, Petersen, Chen, Selby and George McIntyre and then promptly kills all of them simultaneously 15 minutes in. They're all dead.
Now it’s necessary for us to know that all the crew are dead
… but is it really necessary for us to see it?
A lot of this could be done in reported speech or gradually using
flashbacks but instead… we’re introduced to a whole cast only for them to be expunged. To be fair some re-appear later in
flashbacks, as holograms or in time travel story lines (and in series VIII) …
but it still seems brave.
Of course it’s a bit like Alien in that respect – introduce “main”
characters only to kill them - and that may be a reference here but … I don’t
think this had been done before in a sitcom.
It’s one thing having a premise where the crew of a giant ship are all
dead but it’s another thing to actually show them all, introduce us to them all
and then kill them all (admittedly off screen). I’ve said that before, haven’t I? One other thing that did dawn on me watching this episode again - unlike Alien all the disasters that befall the crew of Red Dwarf are man made. All of them. Everybody's dead, Dave.
In many ways the early episodes of Red Dwarf remind me of
the early episodes of Only Fools and Horses - 3 inadequate souls thrown
together by the death/disappearance of the person/people who previously gave
their lives safety and structure (Del’s parents / Captain Hollister and the
officers).
Following the disaster (and 3 million years) Holly decides
that the best person for Dave to spend the rest of his life alone with is not the
late George McIntyre (the original ship’s hologram) but Arnold Rimmer (the
original ship’s other vending machine repair man)… Although
one wonders if Rimmer didn’t just think up an incredibly devious self-serving
argument as to why he’s more important to the ship’s mission than George and
then somehow take advantage of Holly’s senility. He's dead, Dave.
Everybody is dead.
Wikipedia informs us that “Grant and Naylor were so
embarrassed by the first series that they had requested that the BBC not repeat
the episodes as they felt that it would harm the following series” but that of
the first series this was the most popular episode. Perhaps if they’d written it some years later
they wouldn’t have taken this approach.
Series 3 doesn’t even bother to explain what happened following the end
of series 2 except in fast scrolling text – perhaps because the writers
realised with experience that what matters is the situation … not explaining
why the situation is. Not that it
matters because here it works… Everyone.
Everybody's dead, Dave!
There were lots of things I didn’t remember. I didn’t remember the scutters being so prominent
but this appears to be because they have been retroactively CGIed into some
scenes. I didn’t remember George
McIntyre’s wake – such a clever way of introducing the audience to the concept
of a hologram before Rimmer’s death and resurrection. And I’d forgotten how good Rimmer and Lister
were as mirrors of each other. He's dead, Dave.
Lister’s ambitions to go and live on an island submerged by global warming and raise animals with officer Kristine Kochanski are as unrealistic as Rimmer’s ambitions to raise himself up from vending machine repair man to captain via sheer hard work. Both are escaping into fantasy and both sets of fantasies are unachievable in different ways… The cat meanwhile has no ambitions beyond the bottom levels of Maslow's hierarchy of needs (with the possible exception of mate acquisition which is unattainable) and represents contentment. I did remember the crew being reduced to piles of white powder and I did remember Holly providing the memorable exposition…
Lister’s ambitions to go and live on an island submerged by global warming and raise animals with officer Kristine Kochanski are as unrealistic as Rimmer’s ambitions to raise himself up from vending machine repair man to captain via sheer hard work. Both are escaping into fantasy and both sets of fantasies are unachievable in different ways… The cat meanwhile has no ambitions beyond the bottom levels of Maslow's hierarchy of needs (with the possible exception of mate acquisition which is unattainable) and represents contentment. I did remember the crew being reduced to piles of white powder and I did remember Holly providing the memorable exposition…
He's dead, Dave.
Everybody is dead. Everybody is dead, Dave.
Friday, 1 November 2019
Went into the chip shop today...
... and was warned a Marxist Labour government could bankrupt the UK by the Daily Mail...
... On other pages "put Grenfell firemen in the Dock"...
Wednesday, 30 October 2019
The selfishness of asthma sufferers...
One reason I only blog irregularly is there seems to be too
much silliness to keep up with but I had to laugh today at the latest scapegoat
in the reducing greenhouse gasses blame game.
Bless the BBC for worrying about all the asthma sufferers increasing
their carbon footprint by carrying inhalers in case they need to save their own
lives.
Asthma UK health advice head Jessica Kirby said: "It is
vital that you keep using your inhalers as prescribed. "If you are concerned about the environmental
effects, talk to your doctor or asthma nurse at your next annual asthma review,
to see whether there is another type of inhaler that would work for you."
Or you can die.
It may be possible to replace hydrofluoroalkane with another
gas thus reducing the carbon footprint of the NHS by 3 per cent. But really …is that the best use of anyone’s
time and resources? For one thing if
using a different gas makes the inhalers more difficult to manufacture the
energy costs from manufacturing could quickly subsume all the benefits.
If global warming is a real catastropic extinction event as we are so often told then this really is fiddling while the world
burns. One can just imagine someone in a Public Health England office somewhere being told that they MUST reduce CO2 emissions and saying "Well, technically hydrofluoroalkane is more damaging to the environment than carbon dioxide so let's pick on some asthma sufferers and discract attention away from anything that might involve spending money on saving / more expensive energy..."
I watched a Panorama documentary recently where a family
tried to reduce their carbon footprint by eating locust burgers and drinking
soya milk and vegan products that made the children screw up their faces. Purtianism that seemed entirely pointless as
most of their carbon footprint came from unnecessary car journeys and foreign holidays. Watching them count up their carbon output
was not unlike watching a family on one of those benefit Britain type programs
trying to eek their benefits out for the week without visiting a food
bank. I began to wonder if when one becomes middle class enough to not have to count the pennies the parsimonious start counting their carbon emissions instead so they can enjoy the misery of being poor again without any of the dangers...
If one really wanted to reduce
greenhouse emissions the only logical way would be to introduce a rationing
system (and all the black markets that would generate). One imagines modern day Captain Mainwairings getting extra carbon rations off Private Walkers and feeling that it is okay for them as their wife's need for carbon dioxide is "medicinal". Again a lot of blame seemed to be heaped on
cows for simply performing their biological functions and there was no
explanation of the natural carbon cycle for balance.
It can’t be long before someone starts telling us to hold our farts in…
It can’t be long before someone starts telling us to hold our farts in…
Monday, 28 October 2019
Not really a Smart One
Of all the parsimonious stupid ideas that annoy me top of the list is the so called "Smart One".
This brainwave of a shit idea was thought up by the world's most parsimonious person to make sure I use the absolute minimum of bog paper to wipe my arse with.
It only dispenses one sheet at a time and makes out bog paper to be so expensive it needs to be kept under lock and key...
This brainwave of a shit idea was thought up by the world's most parsimonious person to make sure I use the absolute minimum of bog paper to wipe my arse with.
It only dispenses one sheet at a time and makes out bog paper to be so expensive it needs to be kept under lock and key...
The manufacturers claim that these things reduce consumption by up to 40 % and I'm not surprised as half the time they jam and you can't get anything out. However by this time you've evacuated your bowels believing that a toilet roll was available to you not imprisoned in a perspex box.
Really if your expenses are that far stretched I'd rather go back to hard toilet paper in public lavatories. At least no one gave a shit how much I used...
I don't know who is responsible but someone's hands are dirty... as well as mine.
Wednesday, 23 October 2019
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